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"Transcript - Advantage of Representation " 

Brian Therrien:  Good day everybody.  This is Brian Therrien here with Barbara Mountain.  How are you today, Barb?

Barbara Mountain:  I’m great.  Thanks for asking.

Brian Therrien:  Good.  Thanks for coming out today.  We’re going to talk today about the advantages of using a Social Security disability representative and I just want to preface our chat today, Barb, with the audience.  Our strategy and what’s worked for the Disability Digest members to help folks win their case in record time is really to clearly understand both options that you have to either apply or advance a case.  Which, is simply - use a mini course to go through and understand how to advance your case on your own, interview a qualified Social Security disability representative about your case and then compare both options and move forward.  So what we’re going to do is kind of dig into some of the advantages of using a representative today and I think you’re very qualified to do this because of your background.  

Barbara Mountain:  Great.

Brian Therrien:  And you’re not a representative, right?

Barbara Mountain:  I’m not, no.

Brian Therrien:  So here’s why I -- for those of you who don’t know Barbara, your background and I think that you’re a perfect fit to do this is; you began your career actually working for the Social Security Administration, right?

Barbara Mountain:  Right, yeah.

Brian Therrien:  But working with disability claims.

Barbara Mountain:  That’s right.

Brian Therrien:  So you saw how claims went through the application part and what worked and what didn’t and built the base there.  Then from there you went out and worked for a long-term disability carrier and had similar exposure to watching long-term disability claims be processed and go and apply for Social Security disability.  So now, you are working for a Social Security disability representative but still are not a representative.

Barbara Mountain:  That’s right.

Brian Therrien:  So that’s what intrigues me about this so I think it’s good, I thank you for taking the time and helping our audience better understand.  So how about this for a way to start.  A lot of people, when they think about Social Security disability representatives and they use that term because there are different types of representatives and I think the general consumer public thinks that a disability representative has to actually be an attorney.  Could you breakdown the differences for us?

Barbara Mountain:  Sure.  Any person out there has a right to appoint a qualified individual to represent them when doing business with Social Security and Social Security does not require that it be an attorney.  So there’s different types of representatives out there.  There are non-attorney groups, which where you’re not an attorney.  These folks are usually -- it could be a paralegal or they could be pretty much anyone with any background that has an interest in Social Security and has learned the rules and regulations.  For that matter, you could ask your neighbor to be a representative.  I wouldn’t necessarily recommend that unless that’s what they do, but it does not have to be an attorney and that’s non-attorney group. 

Then there are attorneys.  There are attorneys that have gone to law school and have passed the bar and now they are practicing in the Social Security arena, so you can choose an attorney. 

And lastly, there’s some free legal aid and these are groups that will provide services to you pro bono and they may be a mix.  There may be non-attorneys in this group; there may be some attorneys in this group.  So they would be one of the two above, but they are willing to offer services at no charge.  I don’t have a lot of experience with these groups other than knowing that they usually tend to have high caseloads and they’re pretty busy as you’d imagine.

Brian Therrien:  Yeah.  The word free always comes with a catch.

Barbara Mountain:  Right.  Now the appointment must be in writing so you do have to fill out a form with Social Security and you need to file it with Social Security so that they know who this representative is.  That gives them permission to share information about your case with the representative.  Social Security also must approve the fee.  No matter who your representative is, they do not have the right to charge you anything they want.  Social Security actually has a say in that to say if it’s a reasonable amount that they can charge.

Brian Therrien:  That’s good to know.  So there’s non-attorney, attorney, then free legal aid and it really -- we’ll go through some tips today to kind of help people ask the right questions and see where they feel comfortable and what’s best for them.

Barbara Mountain:  Right.  And if they were looking for free legal aid, your local Social Security office should have a list of people that would be willing to do that for you.

Brian Therrien:  Let’s start with somebody that’s applying for the first time.  There’s this term that I’ve used out there called full-service because I’ve seen a difference between folks that do this work, attorney, non-attorney, that I call full-service versus non-full-service.  And what I mean by full service is they actually do all the paperwork in that.  So what I would like to hear from you, from the experience that you have is what’s the difference and what are the advantages of having a representative that will actually do all the paperwork for you versus somebody could say well I know my condition best and maybe I should just actually do that application?

Barbara Mountain:  Well, like you said, there really are two schools of thought on that.  You’ll talk with some attorneys who will say go file on your own and if you get denied and get to the hearing’s level, then we’ll represent you and then you have the others you refer to as a full-service rep who really will take it right from the beginning. 

The full-service rep is going to complete all of the forms with you.  The initial application and anything subsequent that may come out, work reports or activities of daily living, things like that.  The reason why that could be really important is when you’re completing an application, you, as the claimant -- you may write something and not realize that vocabulary is really important and something may come off in a way you didn’t intend for it to come off.  And that can then come back to haunt you as it’s something that maybe has to be overcome in order to get you awarded.  So by having a representative do the application with you, they’re going to make sure that every question is answered appropriately, in a manner that’s going to help you get awarded and it’s also going to help Social Security to see why that medical condition and how that medical condition is preventing you from being able to return to work.  A lot of things that can be lost when you’re completing the application on your own is forgetting that it’s not just about explaining all about your medical condition, it’s really being able to apply how those restrictions and limitations are preventing you from being able to go out and work and find a job that’s going to allow you to earn enough that Social Security deems you could either be disabled or not be disabled. 

Other things that are important, a lot of the questions that you ask on an application, they are lead questions.  What they’re doing is leading the Social Security employee to other benefits that you may be eligible for or other family members may be eligible for.  So it’s just important to make sure that you’re answering those correctly.  Date of disability, for example, is an extremely important date and Social Security is going to state what was the last day you worked?  But there are circumstances where you can take that date of onset and move it in the past.  If you were out of work for a period of time and you went back to work and it didn’t work out because of the disability, you potentially can move that onset date back to when you originally went out and that’s something called an unsuccessful work inhabitant.  There’s some rules around it and there’s some additional forms that need to be filed, but that’s important and that’s crucial because the earlier you can get that onset date, the earlier your benefits are going to begin for you.  Those are the sorts of things that a full-service representative is going to be able to do for you.  They’re also going to make sure that they’re completing everything timely and they’re going to be involved.  If they’re representing you, Social Security’s going to be sending them any new forms and any letters and so they’re going to make sure they’re responding to everything with your input and getting it back.  So it’s kind of taking a burden off of you and at the same time, making sure you’re putting your best foot forward.

Brian Therrien:  So back to somebody filling out the application and maybe not communicating their condition correctly.  Would a situation like that be if somebody is asked why they can’t work and they say well I have fibromyalgia and depression, where they would actually need to communicate well, I can’t work because I can’t sleep and I can’t remember what I did yesterday, let alone today.  I can’t sit for more than five minutes. 

Barbara Mountain:  Exactly.  Showing how it applies.  I mean the diagnosis is important.  They do need to see the diagnosis, but then you need to show what type of symptoms you’re having and how those symptoms are affecting your ability to basically get around in a typical day.  And giving examples such as I can only stand for 20 minutes at a time, specifics like that are very helpful.

Brian Therrien:  And the onset date is really newfound money if you can just roll it back even six months.  It’s for an average check at $1,000, that could make quite a difference.

Barbara Mountain:  Absolutely.  That’s extremely important and most people don’t know that.  They don’t realize that there is a provision called the unsuccessful work attempt.  There are, again, some rules and regulations around it but there are a lot of people that, probably have some guidance, would be able to move that date back.

Brian Therrien:  So if you’re listening for the first time and this example and your check is $1,000 and you discover that you can go back an extra six months, that could potentially be an extra $6,000 that you would get when you get awarded, so great information.  You said one thing that was interesting which is, I don’t know if you used the word stress or not, Barb, but one thing that really gets to people about working through this process on their own is it really compounds the stress issue for a lot of people, doing this paperwork.  So if a full-service representative was to take the case, it’s one less thing that somebody would need to worry about?

Barbara Mountain:  Right, exactly.  They should be completing the application for you and mailing it to you for your signature if need be or submitting electronically.  But actually completing it and it can be a lot easier when someone else is just asking you the questions and then completing it and going forward.  Unfortunately, the Social Security process isn’t easy and it is extremely frustrating especially given the timeframes involved.  So if you can take some of it out of your hands and put the trust in somebody that you’ve hired, I think that can certainly help quite a bit.

Brian Therrien:  So from an increasing the odds of winning perspective, I mean I know it’s probably difficult to pinpoint any figures and I don’t know if there’s industry figures, but if somebody takes the application at the very beginning and does it right, I mean is it just as simple as doing it right the first time that will increase their odds of getting approved?  Does Social Security have any statistics on that?

Barbara Mountain:  Well, actually there are some statistics out.  They are from what’s called an NOSSCR which stands for the National Organization of Social Security Claims Representatives and they put out the statistics a couple of years ago that showed the award rate of the initial level was right around 38 percent nationally.  So only 38 percent of people get awarded and when you have a representative on the case, it does increase.  It’s roughly 62 percent.  Now that was coming from an organization of claims representatives, where that statistic comes from but it does show a pretty significant increase and really what it means is not only is the application being submitted and everything’s being answered correctly, but also all the medical is usually being supplied at the same time.  When you file on your own, it is Social Security’s obligation that if you list medical sources, that they go out and get the medical records for you.  However, if you can supply it yourself, you know what they have, you know they have everything, also can increase the timeliness because they’re not then going to wait that delay and it can take awhile to get medical records.  Even if you’re getting them yourself, you’ve probably experienced that.  So those are things that also can help your case.

Brian Therrien:  Well, that’s 38 to 62.  That’s a powerful difference.

Barbara Mountain:  It is.

Brian Therrien:  Even if it was cut in half from -- well, I guess that wouldn’t work either but still it’s a big difference; interesting.  So let’s talk about this, Barb, as far as selecting an attorney or non-attorney representative, there’s some questions that we have that we provide our members in one of our lessons to do that, but I’d like to hear from you.  What tips could you provide, there are questions to ask or things that people really need to know but they just don’t know how to ask the right questions to determine if somebody’s capable of handling their case?

Barbara Mountain:  I think experience is important.  I mean, the first thing I’d ask is this all you do, Social Security law, or do you do other types of law?  I think you want to know how long they’ve been doing it, how long they’ve been practicing.  I think you’d want to ask them, get a feel for their perspective on the process by saying what are the most important factors in getting my claim awarded?  What do they feel is most important and then if you gave them specifics about your case, what do you feel my odds are?  What do you think is going to be important for me to show in order to get it awarded?  I definitely think it’s important that you ask them what their expectations are of you.  You’re going to say, okay, what’s my role in this process?  Tell me about what you’re going to do and tell me how I fit in?  How often do you communicate with me?  And don’t shy away from asking the question about fees.  What does your fee structure look like?  What does he charge for?

Brian Therrien:  Good points.  You know a lot of the members that we have, the biggest frustration comes usually from choosing a local attorney and there are -- there can be good local choices but often what they do is they’ll just choose a local attorney not knowing that this attorney does several different things because a lot of rural places in the US, attorneys have to.  So their case gets in there and it gets stuck and all of that and they’re frustrated.  But what do you have to say to the audience that’s out there about the comfort level of choosing a representative that meets the criteria versus somebody that’s local?  I guess can they be from anywhere?

Barbara Mountain:  I would say geography is not important.  I think it’s a common assumption that if they’re just down the road, they’ll be right there; I can go see them whenever I want.  The reality is you really don’t need to see your attorney or your representative face-to-face.  Most everything is done via phone, via phone and mail.  So all the applications, all the questions can be answered, it can be done in that manner.  I think it’s much more important the quality of the person that you’re choosing.  How much experience they have with doing this and what their award rates look like and the comfort level you feel with them.  Trust is an important thing.  If you are selecting someone to represent you, you’re going to need to listen to them because they’re going to be the ones preparing you for the hearing and so you need to have a trust in them so I think gaining that is much more important than geography.  In addition, some might say well, if I choose a local attorney, they’re going to know the judges and they’re going to know them well and know what they need to show.  That may be true, but there’s a flip side to it.  If you have a local attorney, they deal with that judge all the time.  They may be less inclined to really push a case and become confrontational with that judge if they need to knowing that this is the person that’s going to be hearing all of their cases.  Where if you hire a national representative, they’re probably more willing to go in there or I know they’re more willing to go in there and basically push it and do whatever they need to do to get it awarded.  If that means getting on the bad side of the judge, that’s what it means.  So that’s one thing to think about and there’s two schools of thought on that.  I think it’s much more important to just get the most qualified person to represent you; a person that you trust will do a good job just versus just because they’re in your local area.

Brian Therrien:  Well, the other side of that is if you’re an initial applicant, if you get the right person from the beginning, ideally you’re not going to be going to trial.

Barbara Mountain:  Absolutely and actually that brings me to another point.  When you’re talking to the possible representative, you want to probably ask them if they attempt on-the-record decisions and what that means is when you are going for a hearing, you have to wait for a hearing and hearings can take 12 months or more just to be scheduled, so they can take a long time.  However, a representative does have an option of trying to get what’s called an on-the-record decision and what that means is they write up a legal brief stating all the facts of the case and why they think the claim should be awarded without the need for a hearing and a lot of those can be awarded and when they’re awarded it means nobody had to go to a hearing.  So that’s an important statistic because, again, it’s a sooner decision for you.  You’re also not going to have to go into a court of law to have a case heard.  You want to ask your attorney about that and once again, a lot of people get those awarded.  Again, another opportunity where you wouldn’t even have to see, face-to-face, your attorney.  But you do want to make sure that whoever you are hiring as your representative is willing to travel to wherever you are to have that hearing face-to-face if need be.

Brian Therrien:  Good points.  Let’s say that somebody’s gone through and they’ve taken the questions that you’ve provided, which have been great, they’ve used the ones that we have in the lessons and they select an attorney.  The next thing is, where I’m going with this, is try to avoid the common complaint that people have about their representative which is a communication plan or lack thereof.  So if I could, in your opinion, how should somebody set up a communication plan?  What happens if there isn’t one?  I’m sure you may know this.  Is the client feels that they can call once a week or once a day and that’s okay to check on the case.  But that’s not necessary.  So what do you feel is?  Do you have tips for that?

Barbara Mountain:  Yeah.  I mean I definitely agree that one of the things you probably should do up front, when hiring someone, is ask about what their communication style is like, how do they communicate?  How responsive are they?  If I call you or send you an email when can I expect that you’ll respond back to me?  What’s typical?  What’s the expectations of your office?  But more than that is I think you’d ask him at the initial level.  At the recon level, at the hearing level, how often do you update me?  There needs to be an expectation on the side of the claimant that Social Security is, unfortunately, a slow process and a lot of times the attorney may have already done everything they can do at that point and they’re waiting for Social Security to act.  Now, that’s not okay for the attorney to then not contact you for six months, in my opinion.  But there is some reasonableness to when they contact you and I think knowing that up front should play into, if you’re comfortable with their answers, whether you decide to use them or not.  For example, my company, at the hearing’s level, it can take a year to get that hearing date, but we’re going to at least give you an update every 90 days and of course we’re going to respond to you and our protocol is that we respond within 24 hours.  Others may be a week.  But knowing this is going to take a lot of that stress, anxiety and frustration out of it.  If you haven’t set something up before you hired him, probably is a good time to bring it up now.  Say, hey, going forward, what’s reasonable?  Because they want to set expectations with you, too.  Because as you said, getting a call every single day on a claim in which you know it’s probably going to be six months before Social Security acts on it isn’t reasonable because they’ve got other claims that they need to be working on.  So there needs to be a balance on both sides of the house in the understanding of how the communication is going to work.

Brian Therrien:  Yeah, yeah.  And that will smooth out the relationship, yeah.  Because it is a long process especially if you’re waiting for a hearing.

Barbara Mountain:  Right.  And even at the initial level.  Once you’re submitted everything, on average it could be three to six months to get awarded and once everything is in, they have all the medical records, all the forms have been completed, there isn’t really anything for anyone to be doing other than waiting at that point.  However, there are times when it’s appropriate to push and to check with Social Security to make sure that it is moving along and your representative is going to have a timeframe of which they think it’s appropriate to make that follow-up call and to make sure that it is continuing to move through the process.

Brian Therrien:  Good point.  Let’s talk about the fees.  People are often, they go it on their own typically.  I don’t think people go it on their because they think they can do it better.  They go it on their own because they want to save money.  Well, I can certainly respect that.  But let’s talk about the fees and what’s involved in those.

Barbara Mountain:  There are basically two different types of fee options that attorneys can use.  Now with both of them, as I mentioned earlier, Social Security must approve the fee.  The first one is called the standard fee agreement and this is the most common.  It’s probably the one you’re going to hear about 90 to 95 percent of the time.  And what that agreement states is that they can charge you 25 percent of past due benefits up to a cap of $6,000.  So whatever you’re due in retroactive benefits, it’s 25 percent of that but the most they could get is $6,000.  That is standard when that is submitted to Social Security, it’s automatically approved and it just goes through, no problem.  The other type is called a fee petition and that is typically used by an attorney that maybe feels they’ve been working a whole lot on a case and they’re entitled to maybe more than that.  Now a fee petition is they have to submit to Social Security what they feel they’re owed and exactly why.  The hours worked and what their charge is per hour and any supporting documentation.  If they go for a fee petition you, as the claimant, should receive a copy of everything that they’ve submitted to Social Security and you also have -- if you have any questions about it or concerns, you can let Social Security know what they are and you need to do that within 20 days of them submitting that fee petition.  But both circumstances, Social Security must approve it.  Now there are other fees that could be referred to as hidden fees.  I would hope they’re not hidden because there shouldn’t be any surprises out there.  You should know up front, but there are fees the attorney can charge you that do not need to be approved by Social Security.  And that is such things as medical records, the cost for obtaining medical records and the cost of copying medical records; they can ask you to pay for that.  However, not everybody does.  There are a lot of representatives out there who do not charge for those sorts of things.  So those are questions to ask up front.

Brian Therrien:  And there are some states where they’re not able to charge for it; is that correct?

Barbara Mountain:  I’m not familiar with that.  I don’t know; that may be true.  But, again, that’s questions to ask up front.  If there’s anything besides the fee that you get for getting me awarded that I might have to pay?  And remember, all fees are negotiable.  So the attorney may have a cap on what they can charge of $6,000, but maybe you can negotiate that they’ll actually charge you less than that.

Brian Therrien:  Good point.  If we could do this, let’s go through an example of a standard fee agreement and what the representative would get and what the applicant would get when they get approved.  So let’s use the average check is around $1,000.  So let’s say somebody has been out of work for, say, 12 months.  They haven’t applied.  And so they have a representative that says that they’re going to take their case at the 12-month period.  Now, and let’s say it takes the representative six months to get that approved, so there’s a total of 18 months and each month is $1,000, right?  So in that example, sorry to lay the heavy math on you, Barb.

Barbara Mountain:  I know.  Are you -- because I’m so technical here, are you including the five month waiting period the person has?

Brian Therrien:  That’s what I wanted to hear out here.  So no, I’m not.  So if they’ve been out of work for 12 months and there’s the five month waiting period, explain how that all works, if you would?

Barbara Mountain:  All right.  Let’s do some dates to make it a little bit easier.  So if a person was out -- the last date that they worked was January 15, 2008 and they filed for Social Security disability let’s say in January of 2009 and they were not awarded until July of 2009.  Social Security makes their decision and says yes, you were disabled back January 15, 2008.  However, everybody who files has to wait five full calendar months before they’re entitled to their first check and that’s their waiting period.  So for this individual who was disabled on January 15th, his waiting period is February, March, April, May and June.  So July of 2008 is the first month he’s actually due a check.  So when he’s awarded in July of 2009, he’s due back payments to July of 2008, so he’s entitled to 12 months of payments in retroactive months and if they agree -- his benefit was $1,000 a month, he’s entitled to $12,000 in back due money.  Now, the representative’s fee is 25 percent of past due benefits up to a cap of $6,000 and 25 percent of $12,000 is $3,000.  So their fee is going to be $3,000 and the claimant is going to receive $9,000.

Brian Therrien:  Great example.  So we talked about that, what the different fee structures are, hidden fees.  Let’s move on to -- from your perspective and you’re talking to an audience of people that have applied or are not represented.  What are some of the advantages, in your opinion, of interviewing a representative?

Barbara Mountain:  Well, I think the most important thing is you have to have a comfort level with them.  I mean you’re putting your future in their hands.  So you need to trust them because as I mentioned earlier, they’re the ones that are going to be telling you what you should do and preparing you to go to a hearing and representing you.  You need to be able to trust them and if you don’t trust them and you don’t want to listen to what they say, then you’ve got a problem and you’re not working together as a team.  So I think the most important reason to interview is to make sure it’s somebody that you’re ready to put your faith in and that you’re ready to really put your future in their hands.

Brian Therrien:  And what expectations could somebody come away from the interview with?  What’s the value that they would learn from your opinion?  Just going through the interview, rather than not doing it.  Let’s say well listen, I don’t want to do the interview.  I’m just going to go and I’m just going to file but if they were to interview, what might they learn?

Barbara Mountain:  Well, they might learn that this person has some great tips for them.  Even if they went on their own, by interviewing a representative, they might actually gain some knowledge that will help you in going forward on your own.  I think you would certainly learn maybe some words in terms of how to communicate your medical condition just based on the way maybe the representative is asking you questions back based on the questions you’re asking them.  They’re going to talk about the focus on the importance to show how your disability impacts your ability to work and you’re going to learn something just in your own sake not only about them and the way they represent you but probably about your case and the it should be presented.

Brian Therrien:  Very good.  That’s valuable information.

Barbara Mountain:  Now, they’re also probably going to tell you if you have a strong case or not.  I think that’s important, too.  They may tell you --if you have a representative who’s saying go file on your own, that maybe because they think you’re going to get awarded on your own.  They may think that, you know what; this person’s got a pretty good case.  If they feel you may have to go through the appeals process, they should let you know that, too.  I think it can help you with expectations because you’re -- if you’re sitting out there and you have a disability and you need to get on Social Security, like I said it’s a stressful, long, frustrating process.  I think if you have an expectation going in of what you can expect maybe at those first couple of levels, that can also help.

Brian Therrien:  My concern about people that are not well and don’t have an advocate to help them and they go to somebody that interviews them and they say, okay, well go file on your own.  I’ve seen too many stories where people don’t know how to file on their own properly and although they might have the condition, but they don’t communicate it so guess what happens?

Barbara Mountain:  Right, yep, exactly.

Brian Therrien:  So if that does happen to you, ask some questions.  What are some of the key ingredients?  If you were to list the top say three key ingredients to really get a case through and approved, what would they be?

Barbara Mountain:  Well, number one medical records.  I mean you have to have the medicals to support your claim of disability.  Something that is able to show your researches and limitations because that’s what it comes down to.  Let’s show how your researches and limitations prevent you, given your age, your education, and your work history, of why you can’t work today.

Brian Therrien:  So if you have a condition that’s not clearly diagnosed that could be a challenge?

Barbara Mountain:  It could be a challenge, but diagnosis isn’t as important as the symptom.  If your doctor could say what is preventing you from being able to do, that’s what’s important.  In some cases, diagnosis is great because then it’s really easy to show, okay, based on diagnosis, this is what the results are and this why it prevents you.  But if you can clearly say we don’t know exactly what it is but we know the person has the inability to do X, Y and Z, then that can be applied to why the person can’t work.

Brian Therrien:  What about being treated?

Barbara Mountain:  That certainly helps.  I mean, showing ongoing treatment, following your course of action from your doctor is huge; that you’re doing what they’re prescribing for you to do is important.  Can you get awarded if you’re not being regularly seen?  You can, but it is more difficult.  Because, again, the more objective evidence you have the easier it is for Social Security to award it and most definitely at the first two levels.

Brian Therrien:  Got you a little off track there.  What other tips?

Barbara Mountain:  You’re doctor’s support.  I mean, having your doctor agree that you meet the qualifications to file for disability but just saying that really doesn’t mean a lot to Social Security.  Anyone can say it.  What they want to see is the proof.  So the doctor’s showing, based on the medical records, that it supports your disability is important.  Also your doctor supporting you in responding to request for information.  That could be a tough part.  You get a lot of places where it’s even just have to get the medical records so your doctor supplying it and filling out anything that they’re asked to fill out can go a long way towards helping you claim.  Work history.  A strong work history really helps your claim and really, honestly, because it gives you credibility with Social Security.  You’ve shown that you’ve been a worker throughout your life and now you have something preventing you from being able to work.  That’s going to help you out.  The stronger your work history, really, goes a long way.  I think a lot of people don’t realize that.

Brian Therrien:  So if you’ve worked 15 years in the same job doing the same thing and you’re not doing it anymore, that’s a key ingredient?

Barbara Mountain:  That’s a key ingredient because honestly you just need a lot of credibility.  Your statements are taken seriously.  It shows good faith, I think, on the part of Social Security.  Not that they’d ever readily admit this, but it’s something that I’ve seen.  I might add a few others.  Again, I’d say listen to your representative.  You’ve hired them to prepare you, you need to trust them and lastly, be honest and straightforward with your representative and with Social Security.  You’re not going to fool the ALJ; you’re not going to fool the judge.  If you can’t work then there is something that can be done to prove your case.

Brian Therrien:  Great information, Barb.  So let’s just recap here briefly.  We’ve gone through the advantages of a full-service representative, what to look for, we talked about the geography, local or nonlocal and how to pinpoint your back benefits.  Make sure you don’t leave any money on the table and really you gave some great questions to ask when interviewing a potential representative and you also gave information about how to really avoid the common complaints which is the communication challenge and when you should be communicating.  So that’s been helpful.  And the fees, we talked about those as well.  So is anything -- did I get it all?  Is there anything we missed?

Barbara Mountain:  No.  I think we did.  I don’t know.  I think we skipped over a little bit the back benefits.  What a representative can do to ensure that you get -- your award amount is appropriate?  So just jump in right there.  One thing that any representative that you have should be doing for you is once you’ve been awarded, reviewing that award letter to making sure that all the dates are correct, making sure they got the correct onset date.  I mean, typos have been known to happen but also Social Security has been known to sometime not award you at the date you alleged, but move it up.  What’s called a partially awarded decision.  But they’re also going to look to make that they aren’t taking any incorrect offsets.  For example, worker’s compensation can be an offset Social Security and if they’re doing that, is it appropriate?  If you have long-term disability, are they mistaking it for worker’s compensation? Social Security does do a good job in pay.  They pay a lot of people and pay a lot of people correctly.  However, I certainly have seen mistakes made.  So you want to make sure that that’s part of the process and they’re reviewing that and making sure that you’re getting everything you’re entitled to once you are awarded.

Brian Therrien:  Okay.  That’s a great point.  Anything else you can think of that would be helpful?

Barbara Mountain:  No.  I think that’s it.  I just want to stress the fact that I think you need to be comfortable with who you choose because you are putting your future in their hands.

Brian Therrien:  Sure you are, yeah, income.  Okay.  Well, thanks again for taking the time.  For those of you who are listening to this, thank Barb for all this great information and there’s more information on the webpage that you’re looking at and there is a form at the bottom that if you want to request an interview with one of the preferred representatives that we have met and gone through here at the Disability Digest, just complete the form at the bottom of the page and put in as much information as possible so that we can take a look at it and do the very best we can to meet your needs.  So just scan down that page and you can see that.  So Barb, thanks again for taking the time today and providing all this wonderful information.

Barbara Mountain:  Great.  You’re welcome.

 {end of the interview}

 



                   

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